Mailing List Message #96610
From: Urs Grützner <>
Subject: Re: CGP SMTP Server frequently not available
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:48:17 +0100
To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions <>
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Thanks, yes we are going to try that as useful workaround.

However I am interested to find out the real problem. When POP is
reliably working why not SMTP? Does CGP SMTP Server have any time set up
options for handling the handshake with a client? (Timeouts). I did not
found any, may be I am searching at wrong places.


From: Postmaster <postmaster at>
Subject: Re: CGP SMTP Server frequently not available
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:32:15 +0100
To: "CommuniGate Pro Discussions" <CGatePro at>
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Try to find out if the ISP he use have a mail relay available for it's

/Leif Carlsson

2 nov 2008 kl. 09.17 skrev Urs Grützner:

Thanks for the answers

He is not in China, but living "in the pampa" in Thailand, connecting
with a radio modem, I guess EDGE.

When sending from Yahoo, he uses webmail, according to the mail header.
When using our server, Thunderbird as Mail client.


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From: Tom Rymes <>
Subject: Re: CGP SMTP Server frequently not available
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:16:09 -0400
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When he is having trouble sending mail through your server, what is the
result if he tries to telnet to your server's address on port 25?
Oftentimes when a network operator is hijacking port 25 I do this and
find that the server greeting lets me know that I am not connecting to
my server. AOL does this, and hotel Wi-Fi often does that, too.

The earlier question about whether this is China would be informative,
because that would increase the likelihood that your user's network
traffic is being manipulated.


On Nov 1, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Urs Grützner wrote:

One of our users in far east has no problems to get mail from our server
in Switzerland. However he is frequently encountering problems by
sending mails.

His mail client tries to connect but without success. The client is
waiting eternally for the handshake. Sending mails from his account at
Yahoo Mail works always.

Pinging the server from there shows large reaction times: min 450 ms,
max 2920 ms avg 1150
(from home: min/avg/max/stddev = 28.260/67.784/209.318/48.814 ms)

Do I need to change some settings on the SMTP server? Which ones?

Does he send mail from Yahoo through the same client or through their
web interface?

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