X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] Return-Path: Received: from mail.solidstatelogic.com ([80.241.69.19] verified) by mail.stalker.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTPS id 47538041 for CGatePro@mail.stalker.com; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:38:03 -0700 Received-SPF: none receiver=mail.stalker.com; client-ip=80.241.69.19; envelope-from=martinh@solidstatelogic.com Received: from volt.solid-state-logic.com ([10.1.1.11] helo=solidstatelogic.com) by towers.solid-state-logic.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1KbtIZ-0003N2-SO for CGatePro@mail.stalker.com; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:37:39 +0100 Received: from [212.183.134.66] (account martinh@solidstatelogic.com) by solidstatelogic.com (CommuniGate Pro HTTP 5.2.6) with AIRSYNC id 1648595; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:37:39 +0100 From: "Martin.Hepworth" MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: Subject: RE: greylisting with CGPro Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:41:31 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Message-ID: X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Solid State Logic for more information X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner-ID: 1KbtIZ-0003N2-SO X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner-From: martinh@solidstatelogic.com X-Solid-State-Logic-MailScanner-Watermark: 1221295061.53838@BPkT6JYrsoKOzQEU5CesQw Also the spambots are getting clever and are starting to retry, so greylisting is becoming less effective. It's still a useful tool to have in your armoury though. -- martin -----Original Message----- From: Mark Nipper Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 12:18 AM To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions Subject: Re: greylisting with CGPro たまちゃん wrote: > Mark Nipper wrote: >> That's incorrect. Even RFC 821 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc821) >> states that a client should retry after receiving a 400 level message. >> This might be ignored by much older clients of course, but there's >> nothing much to be done about substandard implementations. > > RFC 2821 states that the SMTP client is "encouraged" to try again. Hence the increased level of "severity" with the encouraged instead of just saying should as it did in 821. Essentially, to an implementor, you're really dumb if you don't follow this guideline, but hey, it's not necessarily a hard requirement. :) But yeah, greylisting is going to bounce legitimate messages occasionally. There are just too many crusty, old, broken mail systems out there still. ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to ********************************************************************** Confidentiality : This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone. Please advise the sender by replying to this e-mail immediately and then delete the original from your computer. Opinion : Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are entirely those of the author and unless specifically stated to the contrary, are not necessarily those of the author's employer. Security Warning : Internet e-mail is not necessarily a secure communications medium and can be subject to data corruption. We advise that you consider this fact when e-mailing us. Viruses : We have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and any attachments are free from known viruses but in keeping with good computing practice, you should ensure that they are virus free. Red Lion 49 Ltd T/A Solid State Logic Registered as a limited company in England and Wales (Company No:5362730) Registered Office: 25 Spring Hill Road, Begbroke, Oxford OX5 1RU, United Kingdom **********************************************************************