Mailing List CGatePro@mail.stalker.com Message #92942
From: Communigate Forum <communigate@communik8.net>
Subject: Re: Thunderbird integration (once again)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:06:12 +0100
To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions <CGatePro@mail.stalker.com>
this seems to be the case as far as i can see.. everything is aimed at
pronto..

surely a thunderbird plugin would be such an incredibly easy way to
solve this long standing issue..

rup

Kirk Gleason wrote:
> I wish you all the best of luck. My experience has been that they are
> note listening ...
>
>
> ...
> Kirk Gleason
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> On Oct 17, 2007, at 10:44 AM, John Rudd wrote:
>
>>
>> Thirded.
>>
>> We're looking at what to do with our enterprise calendar system
>> (oracle calendar) sometime in the next year, to develop our 5 year
>> plan for it.  The two big contenders are: use our existing CGP
>> infrastructure, or start moving people to Google.
>>
>> Right now, I don't know of an actually supported-by-CommuniGate
>> client side solution for CGP's calendar/to-do list, other than
>> syncing to Outlook with MAPI.  But we need at least Mac support, and
>> at least one non-MS client.  And we need some form of professional
>> data migration service from Oracle to whatever we choose.
>>
>> There are some actually-supported-by-Google client-side options, and
>> some open source options that directly aim at Google Calendar support
>> (ermine for syncing to GPE calendar, for example).  For CGP, all I
>> find is Outlook support.  Not even Entourage.  And then a bunch of
>> mailing list entries for how you can sort of make something work for
>> iCal, etc.
>>
>> And, as others have stated, this isn't something that gets handled by
>> simply being able to run pronto from a flash client instead of a web
>> browser.  "Client support", to us, means it needs to be able to run
>> off-line.  If I run this on my laptop, and then go out of wifi range
>> (or outside of cell phone coverage, for tethering), I still need to
>> be able to read my appointments and todo's.
>>
>> We don't officially support PDAs right now, but several key
>> management people also use that part of our oracle calendar.  I
>> expect we'll also be asked to have some form of sycn-to-PDA support
>> (though, most likely, those PDAs support Outlook and Exchange, so
>> MAPI support might actually be good enough for them, as long as the
>> MAPI support in CGP works with PDA based MAPI clients).
>>
>> And, now that we're finally looking at migrating our mailing lists
>> services off of our legacy system, we've also been asked to evaluate
>> more than just CGP for that target.  So, we're going to have to
>> compare things like CGP, Majordomo, Mailman, and probably Google
>> Groups (even though Google Groups isn't currently part of "Google
>> Apps for Education").  There may be one or two others that get added
>> to that list.
>>
>>
>> The next 12 months will be a huge decision period for us, that could
>> not only affect our future calendar plans, but that could in turn
>> affect our mail server plans, etc.  For example, if we go with Google
>> Calendar via "Google Apps for Education", why would we skip past the
>> Mail/Calendar integration opportunity of also using Gmail via "Google
>> Apps for Education"?   So, CommuniGate needs to pay attention.  Lists
>> features, client support (Windows *AND* Mac support minimum, PDA and
>> Linux being extremely good ideas, my recommendation being explicit
>> support for Thunderbird/Sunbird, Outlook, and Entourage ... Mac Mail
>> and iCal being nice), and professional services are going to be
>> things we consider in making this decision.
>>
>> I hope CommuniGate is listening.
>>
>>
>> Brian Gibson wrote:
>>> I second that motion (:^)
>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:29:59 +0200 (CEST)
>>>  "Bas van den Bosch" <bas@hemel.yi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You probably have heard Mozilla is spinning of Thunderbird in a
>>>> seperate
>>>> entity [1] [2]
>>>>
>>>> David Ascher [3], the chairman of the new foundation, notes, among
>>>> other
>>>> things, the following goal for now: "Create a better user
>>>> experience for a
>>>> range of Internet communications how does / should email work
>>>> with IM,
>>>> RSS, VoIP, SMS, site-specific email, etc?"
>>>>
>>>> The further development of lightning will also be important in the
>>>> development of thunderbird [4].
>>>>
>>>> Especially the goal of integrating different communication-types is
>>>> important [5] and imho a good business-opportunity for stalker.
>>>> Plugins
>>>> for thunderbird utilizing the complete agenda-functions, takslist
>>>> (where
>>>> have my tasks gone in the ics??) and things like sms, voicemail etc?
>>>>
>>>> I know the focus is on Pronto right now but don't forget the rest....
>>>>
>>>> gr
>>>>
>>>> Bas
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/09/mozilla-thunder.html
>>>> [2] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/09/
>>>> [3] http://ascher.ca/blog/
>>>> [4]
>>>> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Status_Meetings:2007-10-10#Meeting_Log
>>>>
>>>> [5] http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=6621
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