Mailing List Message #91985
From: Michael Wise <>
Subject: Re: MacOS X Upgrade to 5.1.11 Issues
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:06:41 -0700
To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions <>
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On 2007.07.27 12:48 PDT (UTC -7) Jakob Peterhänsel wrote:


As the CGP installer does not install any kernal extentions, there are no reason what-so-ever to reboot the OS.
Using launchd is the correct, and by Apple recommended, way of making sure services/deamons run.

The great thing about launchd, is that is will/can then also monitor the process and make sure it get's restartet in the rare event that is should crash.

Startup Items are for OS X 10.0-10.3, launchd is for 10.4+

Wanna know more?

Agreed, which is why I often wondered why all previous Mac CGP installers demanded a restart. That's not "Mac'ish" at all....unless the CGP engineers are applying OS 9 (and earlier) sentiments to modern times.

I just found it odd that after years of engineering their Mac installers to require a restart (when they never really needed one) to suddenly stop with no comment. Coupled with several days of broken and still not fully functional Mac installers, I thought yet something else might be broken.


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On 27/07/2007, at 17.38, Michael Wise wrote:


Running the uninstaller and removing CommuniGatePro.pkg from the Receipts directory allowed me to install 5.1.11, but I was not prompted to restart after installation as all previous versions of CGP installers have made me do.

We decided it may be more appropriate for administrators to restart CGPro using command line (/Library/StartupItems/CommuniGatePro/CommuniGatePro [stop|start]). We are considering adding launchd items for future release to simplify handling of the service.

Suggesting to restart the entire server is too Mac'ish :-)

Whereas giving us a broken and ill-performing installer is too Windows'ish. ; )

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