Mailing List CGatePro@mail.stalker.com Message #104971
From: rwebb@ropeguru.com <rwebb@ropeguru.com>
Subject: Re: Webmail and Email deleted through IMAP
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:25:47 -0400
To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions <CGatePro@mail.stalker.com>, Mark J Strawcutter <mjstraw@iup.edu>
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Are you running lightning as an addon with TB?

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:17:31 -0400
 Mark J Strawcutter <mjstraw@iup.edu> wrote:
While we're on the subject :-)

When you process a calendar event (invite, reply) using webmail (and I think Pronto!), the client does an automatic delete/purge of the event message.  TB/L does not.

BTW - the activesync anomaly I mentioned earlier is a bug that CGP continually refuses to fix.

Mark

On 4/23/2014 9:06 AM, rwebb@ropeguru.com wrote:

Fortunately this is my personal domain so it is not an issue. But it
would be nice if all these different clients would play by the same
"rules".

Robert

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:03:36 -0400
  Mark J Strawcutter <mjstraw@iup.edu> wrote:
Depending on number of users and load, this can be "expensive"

Another thing that contributes to the confusion is that in TB when
delete mode is "move to trash", TB tries to be "intelligent" and not
display marked-for-deletion-but-not-purged messages in a folder.  I
wish there was a way to turn this "feature" off.

Mark

On 4/22/2014 12:35 PM, rwebb@ropeguru.com wrote:

Replying to myself.....

I just saw the option for thunderbird where you have to use the config
editor to change mail.imap.expunge_after_delete option to yes. This
copies it to the Trash folder, then expunges it from the Inbox.
Apparently this is not a changeable option from the normal "options"
screens.


Move it to the Trash folder

"Move it to the Trash folder" is very similar to deleting a message in a
POP account. The main difference is that if you set
mail.imap.expunge_after_delete to true using the Config editor
Thunderbird will compact the folder after it successfully copies the
message to the trash folder. [1] The same thing occurs if you move a
message to another folder since moving a message deletes a message and
then copies it.

Shift+Delete deletes the message without copying it to the trash folder,
and is also supposed to compact the folder (if you have that preference
set). However, some users report that Shift+Delete doesn't always
compact the folder. [2]

If you want Thunderbird to ask for confirmation when emptying a trash
folder, set mail.imap.confirm_emptyTrashFolderDeletion to true.



On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:31:54 -0400
  "rwebb@ropeguru.com" <rwebb@ropeguru.com> wrote:

I understand that, hence my issue. The purge is a manual process after
every email deletion. The only other option is to have Thunderbird do
the purge/compact when you close Thunderbird. A lot of times I leave
Thunderbird open at home on my workstation. If I have deleted
messages, those messages still show up in webmail unless I manually
delete each one, or perform the options I have already mentioned with
Thunderbird.

Robert

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:27:01 -0500
 "Taylor, Jonn" <jonnt@taylortelephone.com> wrote:
There is an option in Thunderbird to purge the deleted message.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_messages_in_IMAP_accounts

Jonn

On 04/22/2014 11:21 AM, rwebb@ropeguru.com wrote:

But the issue is when I delete a message in Thunderbird where the
message gets marked as deleted, copied to trash, but not purged from
the Inbox if I do not exit Thunderbird. The message that was deleted
with Thunderbird still shows up in webmail but with a strikethrough.
The only way to not see it, shy of clsoing Thunderbird or compacting
the folder with Thunderbird, is to manually delete it with the
webmail client.

Robert

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:52:17 +0200
 "b.turnbow@twt.it" <b.turnbow@twt.it> wrote:
In Communigate

Or via pronto preferences , or admin page account preferences

Brian

Brian Turnbow
Network Manager TWT S.p.A.


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Sent: martedì 22 aprile 2014 16:13
To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions
Subject: Re: Webmail and Email deleted through IMAP

Under Thunderbird, correct?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:10:16 +0200
  "b.turnbow@twt.it" <b.turnbow@twt.it> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can change your delete method to "move to trash" so that
they will
>show in the trash folder.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> Brian Turnbow
> Network Manager
> TWT S.p.A.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of rwebb@ropeguru.com
>> Sent: martedì 22 aprile 2014 16:03
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>> Subject: Webmail and Email deleted through IMAP
>>
>> So when I delete email through Thunderbird using IMAP, email get
>>deleted  but not purged. This causes the deleted email to still
show
>>up in webmail but  with a strike line through it. Is there any
way to
>>have webmail ignore and not  display these messages. Many time I
leave
>>my Thunderbird open at home so  the mailbox purge does not take
place.
>>
>> Robert
>>
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